an alternative view
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Today is a sad day. It did not work out.
I know I am in a large minority but while our signings have not been great so far we are not so far off from being half decent. I genuinely think we are mid table material no better no worse.
If it had been my call I would not have sacked Hecky and would have given him a good deal longer but that debate is now of no value. For the record Paul leaves winning 12, drawing 11 and losing 9. Far better than most Hibernian managers.
What is of value is to appraise what went wrong and how it can be rectified.
Firstly, the last few seasons have been easy street. No Rangers and a poor Celtic. Now it is different Rangers and Celtic, like it or not, are far, far improved with budgets 5x ours. Sure we have double the budget of say Motherwell but frankly that is a rounding error while third tier English clubs pay well above what we do.
Before we won the cup Hibernian were in a dire mess. An angry support, a merry-go-round of managers and over 100 players in 5 seasons, unrealistic expectations, a negative vibe and a half empty stadium, even for the big games. My interest was waining.
Stubbs/ Demptster and the cup changed all that and for three or four short seasons Hibernian had a support, positivity and atmosphere like never before (in my life time). Today, if Hibs.net is the barometer, our support is angry and has gone back to every negativity of the past.
Give me a break from 'I will not accept this mediocrity' sanctimonious crap from some posters. Take the plank out of your eye before removing the spec from others. We are in danger of learning nothing and making this club ungovernable through a volatile, angry and very short term results driven, support. The real world operates a a bit differently and todays sacking could well cost well over £1m by the time all the impacts are felt from disregarded players, new budgets, ideas and styles. And frankly there is absolutely no guarantee it will work at all. It is a 50-50 punt for being a substantial sum worse off.
Some of our support never accepted Hecky from day one. They harked back to the loud mouthed days of Lennon, whose record latterly was very poor. The truth is we had and lost an outstanding midfield through no ones fault other than much more money elsewhere. McGinn was a once in a generation superstar and for a while we had the best midfield in Scotland who could turn a game on a six-pence. That is a rare thing. Was it Stubbs/ Dempster or luck who found it? Who knows, who cares- it was here.
Frankly in no sensible industry/activity is success judged on a six month time frame. That is what pathetically happens in football. Our poor new owner. I do hope he knows what he has let himself in for. A support with rightly with high expectations but also one who turn very quickly and frankly given our budget a complete miss-match between expectations and reality. Your unrealistic expectations made Hibernian an impossible gig before the cup win and there is a danger you will do the same again.
I am quite sure this post will be shouted down. Go ahead if you like but things cannot continue like this. Boo if you like, get at the new manager if it makes you feel good, but Im out. Create a fun supportive vibe and I am in, almost regardless of the results. I suspect I am not he only one.
I know I am in a large minority but while our signings have not been great so far we are not so far off from being half decent. I genuinely think we are mid table material no better no worse.
If it had been my call I would not have sacked Hecky and would have given him a good deal longer but that debate is now of no value. For the record Paul leaves winning 12, drawing 11 and losing 9. Far better than most Hibernian managers.
What is of value is to appraise what went wrong and how it can be rectified.
Firstly, the last few seasons have been easy street. No Rangers and a poor Celtic. Now it is different Rangers and Celtic, like it or not, are far, far improved with budgets 5x ours. Sure we have double the budget of say Motherwell but frankly that is a rounding error while third tier English clubs pay well above what we do.
Before we won the cup Hibernian were in a dire mess. An angry support, a merry-go-round of managers and over 100 players in 5 seasons, unrealistic expectations, a negative vibe and a half empty stadium, even for the big games. My interest was waining.
Stubbs/ Demptster and the cup changed all that and for three or four short seasons Hibernian had a support, positivity and atmosphere like never before (in my life time). Today, if Hibs.net is the barometer, our support is angry and has gone back to every negativity of the past.
Give me a break from 'I will not accept this mediocrity' sanctimonious crap from some posters. Take the plank out of your eye before removing the spec from others. We are in danger of learning nothing and making this club ungovernable through a volatile, angry and very short term results driven, support. The real world operates a a bit differently and todays sacking could well cost well over £1m by the time all the impacts are felt from disregarded players, new budgets, ideas and styles. And frankly there is absolutely no guarantee it will work at all. It is a 50-50 punt for being a substantial sum worse off.
Some of our support never accepted Hecky from day one. They harked back to the loud mouthed days of Lennon, whose record latterly was very poor. The truth is we had and lost an outstanding midfield through no ones fault other than much more money elsewhere. McGinn was a once in a generation superstar and for a while we had the best midfield in Scotland who could turn a game on a six-pence. That is a rare thing. Was it Stubbs/ Dempster or luck who found it? Who knows, who cares- it was here.
Frankly in no sensible industry/activity is success judged on a six month time frame. That is what pathetically happens in football. Our poor new owner. I do hope he knows what he has let himself in for. A support with rightly with high expectations but also one who turn very quickly and frankly given our budget a complete miss-match between expectations and reality. Your unrealistic expectations made Hibernian an impossible gig before the cup win and there is a danger you will do the same again.
I am quite sure this post will be shouted down. Go ahead if you like but things cannot continue like this. Boo if you like, get at the new manager if it makes you feel good, but Im out. Create a fun supportive vibe and I am in, almost regardless of the results. I suspect I am not he only one.