'He's not there': E. Jean Carroll shocked by 'walrus' Trump's mental fitness

E. Jean Carroll thinks that Donald Trump has some mental deficiencies after experiencing him in court.

Speaking to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow with her attorneys, Carroll explained her fears and anxieties seeing Trump for the first time in person so many years later.

"By the way, Rachel, he is not even there," Carroll said. "He's nothing. He is without — he is like a walrus, snorting and like a rhino flopping his — he is not there. That was the surprising thing to me."

Maddow keyed in on Carroll feeling like he was an animal and whether that made him less intimidating.

"No, Rachel, I was terrified," said Carroll. "I was just a beg of sweating corpuscles as we prepared for trial. And four days before the trial, I had an actual breakdown. I lost my ability to speak. I lost my words. I couldn't talk, and I couldn't go on. It was — that's how frightened I was. But oddly, we went into court."

She said that her lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, took the lectern, asking her to spell her name for the court.

"And amazingly, I looked out, and he was nothing," she said. "He was nothing. He was a phantom. It was the people around him who were giving him power. He himself was nothing. It was an astonishing discovery for me. He's nothing. We don't need to be afraid of him. He can be knocked down. Twice by these woman right here."

Trump has claimed that he won't give Carroll a "cent" of the jury's order.

See the opener of the interview below or at the link here.

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