Carl Lentz was ‘caught having sex with a young celebrity’ by dog walker before disgraced pastor was fired from church
DISGRACED pastor Carl Lentz was allegedly caught having sex with a young celebrity by his dog walker, The Sun can exclusively reveal.
Lee Martin, who was the Lentz family dog walker in New York for many years, says he walked into the apartment and heard the pair having sex in one of the bedrooms.
He then saw megachurch pastor Carl and the star — whom The Sun has decided not to name — come out of the apartment “looking flushed.”
“They lived in a building in Manhattan where I had the majority of my dog walking business,” Lee told The Sun.
“I walked into the house one day to walk their dog and I didn’t see or hear any people in the apartment at first.
“So I took it that no one was there and went in and got their dog on a leash.
“And as I went to exit the apartment, I walked past the bedroom and I heard sex noises – it definitely sounded like two people were having sex.
“I was kind of shocked but I do walk into stuff like this quite a lot.
“I knew that I wasn’t supposed to be there because nobody would be making those kinds of noises if they knew someone was around.
“When I walked out of the door, I accidentally let the door close behind me too loud.
“And so by the time I made it to the elevator, Carl and the star were right behind me.
“He didn’t look me in the eye, and didn’t talk to me or acknowledge me, which was very unlike him.
“They both seemed kind of flushed – like they had been having sex.
“I didn’t see into the bedroom but I know what I heard and I believe what I heard was Carl and the celebrity having sex with each other.”
Lee said there was a significant age gap between the pair, with the star being much younger than the pastor.
He said he only told a few close friends about the November 2014 incident, and didn’t consider coming forward about it out of respect for his client’s privacy.
However he said he changed his mind after hearing Carl had been fired from the Hillsong Church for inappropriate behavior.
The hipster pastor was formally sacked by Hillsong, a church founded in Australia, for a “revelation of moral failures,” according to a statement sent to church members on November 4.
The 42-year-old admitted being unfaithful to his wife in an Instagram post on November 5 – a day after he was fired.
New York designer Ranin Karim, 34, exclusively told The Sun to she had a six-month affair with Lentz, who is married to Laura Lentz, 40, and has three children: Ava, 16, Charlie, 14, and Roman, 11.
An insider has since told The Sun that at least three more women have come forward to claim they had an affair with him – as part of Hillsong’s investigation.
“I always found he kind of put out this manipulative, almost grooming vibe,” Lee said.
“And I started to look at his interactions with people over the years, videos and pictures and things, and it just seemed inappropriate for a pastor.
“I would see him parading around the neighborhood with his shirt off, wearing thousand dollar leather pants, on an electric scooter, smoking an electric cigarette. It just doesn’t seem like a pastor at all.
“I always had a weird vibe about him and then after I heard the allegations against him and watched videos of him it started to hit me that maybe I need to come forward with this story to help other people who might have had similar experiences.
“I feel like the story here is that Carl Lentz is a super manipulative man, who puts out this sex vibe thats inappropriate for a pastor, and who has celebrities and young people hanging off his arm and listening to his every word.
“The church has a policy against sex outside of marriage.
“So he’s telling people how they should live their life, but doing whatever he wants in his own life.”
Lee said Carl used to make him feel uncomfortable, as he was always trying to pressure him into coming to their church.
“There was always a group of celebrities and model-looking type people, all wearing expensive black clothes, hanging in the lobby of this building trying to get people to come in,” he said.
“I remember him with a blonder, taller guy. And he had that guy stand next to me in the elevator and say, ‘Why don’t you come to our church?’ And I was like, ‘Well, I’m just not interested, I have my own beliefs that are working for me, but thanks’.
“And he replied, ‘Don’t you know who this is? This guy has changed so many people’s lives. You’re really wasting an opportunity.’
“And they really tried to make me feel guilty for being ungrateful.
“This was at least a dozen times that I had to have this conversation with either Carl or one of his followers.
“Other times girls would show up at the building in tears because they couldn’t find where the latest service was taking place – they would move around a lot at that time. It was almost like an addiction for these people.”
Lee said he also had a number of other “uneasy interactions” with Carl and his family during the time he worked for him.
“For a number of months, they didn’t have me to walk their dogs – they traveled a lot and things,” he said.
“Then when I started walking their dog again I saw they had got rid of their old dog and got a new one that looked similar.
“But when I asked them, they said it was the same dog. I knew it wasn’t – it was just weird behavior.
“He was just always very pushy towards me.
“I remember one time he was looking at me and saying ‘You must make a lot of money walking dogs, what do you make about $100,000 a year? I felt like he was sizing me up.
“It made me feel uncomfortable – that and the fact he would not take no for an answer for me to come to his church really was off putting to me a lot of the time.
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“I was certainly not surprised when I heard he had been fired. I feel there will be more people who will come forward with allegations when they read this.”
The Sun reached out to a representative for Carl Lentz for comment.