Wigan Warriors • Re: Team for Saints (CC)

And Havard would walk into yours. That doesn't make him some kind of superstar just yet. Knowles is a good player. I'll even accept a very good player by superleague standards. But the amount of hype surrounding him is completely off the scale for what amounts to a grafter. As I say, we aren't talking a Sculthorpe or an O'Loughlin here. He never has, and probably never will given he's already in his mid 20s, be able to take a game by the scruff of the neck and win it 'single handedly' as those two could.

There have been many grafters throughout rugby league who would walk into practically any side because all sides need them. But let's not talk them up beyond what they are! Jammer's comments hit the nail squarely on the head. In a team of quality, the Knowles' of this world allow the star players to do their thing. That doesn't qualify them as being among their ranks. Smithies, for us, is doing a similar job. His graft allows the likes of French, Field or Farrell to do their thing. It doesn't put him in the same bracket as them.