General Football forum • Re: Mikel Arteta
I have to disagree with the assertion that the defender (Gabriel, I think) went down too easily. There are clearly two hands on his back as he is pushed. If that's not a foul, then I'm not sure what is. It's very clear, two hands on his back and a distinct pushing motion, that has to be a foul.Except he was wrong on at least one of the three, if not all three. One of the few times VAR didn't stuff up IMO, largely because they didn't have any evidence to confirm it, so it reverts back to ref's call.
The ball wasn't *definitely* out, which it has to be to be called. There is no way this can be seen from the available footage. It's falling for parallax error, to claim it was out. We saw it with Japan at the World Cup, a ball looked for all money to be out due to the angle of the camera, yet it wasn't. Play on.
The non-foul was the right call for me as there's too many beefy centre backs effectively taking dives at the first slight contact, and there wasn't much in it despite what the still image purported to show. It's a contact sport.
The offside could have been worked on for longer to get a definitive answer (yet the process was already dangerously slow at 4 mins) if the cameras are time synced. It doesn't appear as though Gordon could have been onside during the window of contact between the ball and Joelinton, but again, unless it can be proven he was offside, then he's got to be treated as onside. Like a run out in cricket where you can't see the bails being dislodged, benefit of the doubt/umpire's call.
Arteta's talk of the title being at stake is entirely irrelevant to the decision around whether it was a goal or not. Manager not able to contain his emotions.
Ian Wright's wrong too.
Despite all that I'm still against VAR.
If the footage is inconclusive with regard to whether the ball went out of play or whether or not Gordon was offside, then surely that completely defeats the object of millions of pounds of investment in "cutting edge" technology to eradicate mistakes, and the expense of having additional resources sat in Stockley Park with all of the tools at their disposal to dissect every decision.
You're telling me that VAR can determine that a player is offside because his toenail is ahead of the defender, but is not able to determine whether a ball has fully crossed a white line?
If that's truly the case, then what exactly is the point of having this expensive set of toys that clearly do not work?
It's not just the Newcastle/Arsenal game that is blighted by VAR. We have controversial decisions happening in every single game, every week. Is that not the point of VAR? A lot of these decisions are not even marginal, they are clear as day, yet the super-sophisticated array of expensive cameras and computer wizardry is unable to see what us fans can see with our naked eyes from the stands. How exactly is that benefitting the game that we love?
Referees have got things wrong since football was invented. However, when it's just a poor refereeing decision, it can be written off as simple human error. We are supposed to have the very latest cutting edge technology to eradicate those "human-errors", but rather than solving the problem, if anything it's made it even worse!
Statistics: Posted by 74Blue — Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:56 pm